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August 10th, 2002


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02:38 am - according to newsweek, the idea of heaven is as neccesary to people's lives as love
ya know how i use the word ridiculous all the time? i went for YEARS thinking it was spelled rediculous, and no one ever bothered to correct me. after i discoverd the error, i asked and was told they (specifically, the denizens of a.f.d_b) figured i was doing it on purpose. if there's anything they excelled it, it was pointless spelling/grammar flames. and when i needed them, they let me down! astounding. rediculous, even.

in other news, i wrote about 3 pages last night at work. handwritten, so 1 1/2 typed assuming my handwriting hasnt grown terribly since highschool. it's nothing particularly amazing, but i'm happy because it actually has a PLOT, which my writings have not featured lately. so we'll see, i'll stick it in verbalkint when i finish it. it's based on an idea i'd had awhle ago, and was going to write a really short silly story on. but every time i tried, i coudlnt get anything to come of it. now i'm expanding it quite a bit and playing it with a straight face. we'll see. also i started reading the illuminatus! trilogy the other day. straaange so far. and 800 pgs to go! yay! not something i shouldve started at teh end of the summer, but whatev

tuesday i went down with ashootingstar to tanner city fencing club, in peabody mass. fun! it's always so cool to get back to fencing after i havent for awhile (even if my slovenly summer ways have robbed me of all my strength). there was an OLYMPIC FENCER there. he destroyed us all, of course, but was just soo fun. i did get 2 touches on him! and i woulda had 3 if i didnt always retreat after an attack misses. bad habit! .. i can only compare his style to fighting a giant blender. blade swinging around everywhere, it was crazy. he was a really cool guy too

wednesday night was sara's birthday/going away to college party. hanging around with a bunch of people you were sortof acquiantences with a couple years ago is weird. and danielle, who seems to outright hate me now for no reason i'm aware of. it was fun tho.. at some point we all ended up in a big circle around a fire, trying to tell the most offensive evil jokes we could think of. then just talking for awhile. it was a good night. sara was sad all night tho. beyond being hopped up on drugs (she'd had her wisdom teeth out), i'm not sure what was going on with her. i hope everything's good

and a general observation: if i was half as silly and random with other people as i am talking to myself when i'm bored, i would either be the most charming guy ever and universally loved, or be locked in a basement somewhere as a danger to myself and others. when i'm not depressed, i am damn good company to myself. on a more serious point tho, the more aware i am of my thoughts the more i become aware that in some ways i am a very biased person. i've been thinking how to explain it, and can't figure it out. it's not that i treat people differently, or have an inclination to, or that i think of groups of people as being a certain way. i don't know how to describe it. so i suppose this is more of a confession than a conversation.

tho speaking of which, i've noticed that people don't respond to points i raise anymore. i used to have fun discussions in here but now no one has anything to say when i bring something up

i was congratuled on being an agnostic today by a guy who, moments earlier, had tried to explain how him not stealing 2 bucks from cumbys was proof that the christian heaven makes more sense than the muslim heaven and is condusive to honesty. we only talked for a few minutes but i wish he'd hung around awhile longer, he seemed like someone i would like to have a good conversation with. also, he looked like the old guy from jurassic park
state: good luck on your journey
np: Billy Joel - River Of Dreams - - The River Of Dreams

(10 shots upside the head | en garde!)

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From:ninjer
Date:August 10th, 2002 12:09 am (UTC)
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I read Illuminatus! twice a year or so now.

It change my life, very literally, and very figuratively.

You must read the Principia Discordia, too, if you haven't. My first time reading Illuminatus!, a summer or two ago, I thought the Discordians were invented FOR THAT BOOK, I didn't realize that the authors were quoting a real book (which I have adopted as my personal Bible).
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From:kingnixon
Date:August 11th, 2002 12:33 am (UTC)
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you read the main trilogy or the whole series?

i am having so much trouble keeping track of the 23853925835 characters and plotlines and details

i haven't read enough yet to encounter any lifechangingness. it's good tho

i think i have the principia saved on my computer somewhere. or wrote down the website it's on, or something. but i know it exists, is the point of this. i haven't read it yet tho, except to skim thru
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From:kingnixon
Date:August 15th, 2002 12:23 am (UTC)
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also i'll point out that the impression i got from skimming thru the principia was that it was a joke religion invented by some weirdos for their own amusement. is that true, or is it meant seriously? (granted, given what i remember of it, to take it seriously would almost require treating it as a joke. but you know what i mean. i hope)
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From:ninjer
Date:August 15th, 2002 07:48 am (UTC)
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It's more of a joke than Christianity (not much more, though), and less of a joke than than SubGeniusism (which is also true, of course).

All religions make as much sense as another. The funniest religion of all is atheism, because most atheists don't even realize atheism is a religion, and get very violently angry when you say it is!

Some people have Jesus tattoos. They depict Jesus as a white man with auburn hair. Is this not fiction? Jesus was born in the Middle East a long time ago. So, already, we can say with quite some certainty that the modern view of Jesus is already a "joke," a fiction. I have a Discordian tattoo. It's simply the word "discord" written in Japanese. Is that more, or less, fictional than a White Jesus?

Chaos is a scientific certainty. Does giving Chaos a goddess's name make Chaos unreal? Untrue?

Can we doubt the great saying of the Sacred Chao: "Mu?"

And besides, you cannot doubt Discordianism. Every creature on Earth is a POPE of Discordia! Therefore, it must be true!

Jesus walked on water. Once.

Eris makes your car keys move. Often.

Think about that.
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From:kingnixon
Date:August 15th, 2002 08:40 am (UTC)
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haha i'd forgotten about subgenius. that is a fun site

i didnt mean a joke in terms of how much sense it makes, or how historically accurate it is. i mean.. do the people who follow it think of it as a religion and eris as a goddess the same way christians follow jesus, or is chaos a natural part of the universe that has been personified for convenience's sake
ooh i'm a pope? do i have papal infallibility? i could have fun with that
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From:ninjer
Date:August 15th, 2002 08:52 am (UTC)
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SubGenius is older than the website. It's been around since the late 70s/early 80s. You should get the Book of the SubGenius, good stuff. Very Devo.

Some of the people who follow Discord think of it as a true religion. Some do not. The same can be said of ANY religion. I know Christians who go to church and find it all a Big Joke.

This is the whole point. The WHOLE POINT is that it doesn't matter if it's a religion with a goddess, or a personification of Chaos. Because every religion can be viewed as "a religion with a god" or "a personification of a favorable aspect of the universe." See? The whole point of Discord is to show this, through humor.

And as one of the founders said, "When I first started, I thought I was fucking with Eris. Now I see that Eris was fucking with me all along!"
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From:feste
Date:August 10th, 2002 03:18 am (UTC)
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I love reading you, Daniel-san, you are clever and quirky and good things like that. But I have little to say about anything but fluffy stuff in other peoples' journals these days. Sorry. I do appreciate your cleverness though.
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From:danoot
Date:August 10th, 2002 10:03 am (UTC)
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Hello Mister Bean!

Just an observation:
I find being silly and random is indeed counted as charming by the world at large.
But then, I find professing ignorance of social customs is a good way to get people
to step you through them[1].
Which is well useful, really.

also I find that writing is a great way to do stuff, where stuff is defined as anything,
really. I should write more, it lets me leak my creative juices[2] somewhere that isn't
going to cause me problems.

Anyways, as I was sort of saying: Being crazy[3] is a great way to avoid
actual thinking and social commitment. Whilst still having friends.

And stuff.

Crazy things are happening in the world, I demand to fit in.

Danoot
-- also I demand 1d live. You, all of you, go there now. Post stuff. --
[1]
D:"I don't really know how to talk to girls... they scare me"
G:"well, say stuff like this [stuff], and they'll love you"
D:"[stuff]"
G:"I love you... come home with me?"


works for me[4]!

[2]
Creative juices being like semen[5] - you have to get rid of it, or it makes a mess
when you least need it. I stole this from some guy who writes on megatokyo, but
I believe it nonetheless.

[3]
where crazy is defined as not-normal. Which is easy.

[4]
really. Even though I bail at the last minute and go home, instead of to random
houses.

[5]
only less physical, more mental impregnation. HTH.
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From:kingnixon
Date:August 15th, 2002 12:28 am (UTC)
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danoot! hi!

being silly and random is at first charming, then becomes irritating, then alarming.

i often use craziness the same way.. tho i find makign friends w/o thinking or social commitment causes its own problems

i've tried your footnote number the first almost exactly (only, there was some elapsed time between the explanation and my telling her [stuff] because i chickened out the first time). didnt work
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From:danoot
Date:August 15th, 2002 04:34 am (UTC)
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Hi bean!

It does occasionally have its downsides, but if you keep a sort of low-grade
zaniness on most of the time, it doesn't get too much. As long as you can
be serious when you have to.

Maybe I'm just lucky in having tolerant friends. heh.

And yeah, I don't know how to explain what I mean very well at the moment.

This LJ thing scares me again.


::thinks::

Nope, I got nothing. Anyway, I'm glad you're feeling happier now,
and stuff.
On the rare occasions that it happens, it's a very good thing.


::runs off before he falls in a hole composed entirely of the absence of sens

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