April 16th, 2009
|07:11 pm - vegetables|
so i recently became vegetarian, for reasons i will post about as soon as i figure out what to write. but anyway, that reason now being i guess somewhat moot, i am nevertheless stickin with it (with the exception of my upcoming ireland trip. just the thought of trying to feed a vegetarian in ireland was giving lauri fits; apparently i would have been living on potatos and derision). so when i get back, i am rocking vegetable action fun time. i feel like it is suiting me well, right now.
 oh hey, remember how i'm goin to ireland? no you probably don't. but anyway, i am going to ireland! want a postcard?
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i traveled in ireland for a month as a vegetarian and it was totally fine. you could do it if you really put the effort into it!
it's not yet something i am going to put major effort into. baby steps on my little meat feet
I was just going to say that I think you'd do fine eating vegetarian in Ireland, especially if you're going to be mostly in largish towns and cities. I mean, you'd miss out on some major deliciousness, but you definitely wouldn't starve.
Ireland is awesome! Where are you going? We had such a good time when we went last time.
i'm staying in dublin with a friend. she has some touristing planned out for me and i am basically leaving it in her hands. apparently i am going to see the oldest bible ever, and the cliffs of insanity!
missing deliciousness would be a shame, esp foreign deliciousness. also i am a big fan of trying weird horrifying foods (blood pudding looks promisingly hideous).
|Date:||April 17th, 2009 06:46 am (UTC)|| |
A couple of Americans have said this! But I'm sort of confused... I've been living in Dublin for two years, and there are only a couple of vegetarian friendly places that I know of... coffee shop type chains like O'Briens, that charge 7-8 euro for a grilled cheese sandwhich, which is ridiculous, and one specialist, vegetarian restaurant. An example of their menu is 2 courses for 21.95... and the only choices are a cup of different types of soup, and a small slice of different kinds of quiche. My plan if we eat out in Dublin was to take him for the Marks and Spencer's meal deal, which is only 2.75 and comes with chips and a drink as well as a sandwhich... but that's a cold meal and wouldn't be something we could sit down to eat because they sell it out of their food hall.
Vegetables as a main course for three people would also be a pretty huge increase in my food bill. Eggplant, for example, for three people would cost about 6 euro (that's $9) from the grocery store. I could theoretically get it from Moore St. Market, which would cut the price in half, almost. But the stuff from the market goes off within a day or two, so that's a trip into the city centre daily to feed him, which adds the cost of the Luas to the price of the food. So I don't think I'd save any money there. Seriously, I struggle to feed fresh, leafy greens to my boyfriend and I daily as a side, nevermind a main course.
My boyfriend, who has lived here all his life, and has a vegetarian sister, said that he has never met a vegetarian who doesn't eat fish here. When I called around to a couple restaurants in Galway, the dishes listed on their vegetarian menu were mainly salmon dishes.
I've solved the Dublin side of things, I have a few recipes that utilize lots of starch and a few root vegetables, which are affordable enough here. My concern in Dublin was mainly about variety, but I got several suggestions from friends for veggie friendly recipes, so I've solved that obstacle.
My main concern has always been the 2-3 days we'll be spending in Galway, because I don't know Galways as well, and because I don't live there, we'll *have* to eat out there. The obstacles I've met thus far in obtaining vegetarian friendly plans have been really discouraging, but I'm not a vegetarian, so maybe I'm missing some sort of resource that others have found. Seriously, if you know a place in Galway where we can eat for around 15 euro per person for dinner... I'd be totally down with bringing Dan there and helping him be more moral. But I'm genuinely stumped on how to feed him anywhere but my kitchen.
I didn't notice any major differences in the range of vegetarian options available at restaurants in Dublin versus restaurants in New York, honestly. The only difference I noticed was that New York has a handful of all-vegetarian restaurants and Dublin doesn't, but I didn't notice a lack of the same kind of vegetarian options on regular menus in Dublin as you'd find here -- pasta, salads, some veggie sandwiches, etc. Ethnic restaurants would have options as well, and Dublin seems to have plenty of Thai and Middle Eastern options.
But then, I also found food in general outrageously expensive in Dublin (and hi, have I mentioned I live in Manhattan?), so I wasn't really scouting for incredible deals. We also were staying right in the heart of the city center, and as visitors we didn't have any option but to eat out for every meal. Price wasn't mentioned as a parameter in the original post, and neither was distance to the city center -- both of those seem like bigger hurdles than the vegetarian issue. I just can't imagine that there are no vegetarians in Dublin, a quite cosmopolitan university city, who aren't starving to death.
We only spent a day in Galway -- which was honestly MORE than enough for me -- and we had a hard time finding anywhere I wanted to eat that wasn't overpriced pub food or even more overpriced fancy-restaurant food. We ended up at a slightly upscale chain Italian restaurant and had pizza, which was actually pretty good and reasonably priced with the prix fixe option. And that could very easily be made vegetarian. Since we spent 10 days making a big driving loop from Dublin to the west coast to Belfast and back, a lot of our lunches were just sandwiches-and-snacks from chain supermarkets that we ate in the car, and I don't think we were hurting for non-meat options there, either.
|Date:||April 17th, 2009 08:38 pm (UTC)|| |
Ah, yeah, price was one of the biggest issues. I know there are tons of places that sell cheese sandwhiches and stuff, but if I can avoid making Dan pay €5-8 per meal, I'd like that. I can feed my boyfriend and myself for about €10 a day, three meals a day plus snacks. Paying almost that for one person and one meal seems ridiculous to me.
Having lived here for two years and loving to eat out, I've ruthlessly hunted down the good value restaurants and only eat there, but none of those places have much in the way of vegetarian options, even traditionally vegetarian friendly dishes, like risotto and soups have meat or meat by product in it.
So yeah, it is possible to feed Dan nothing but veggies here, but it would have doubled or tripled my food bill, and I don't want to be the kind of host who asks her friend to shell out money for groceries the day after he lands.
I understand that when the Irish ran out of potatos they did just fine living on derision alone.
Our derision is of notoriously low nutritional content.
it's lucky you had such a fine supply, then
|Date:||April 17th, 2009 06:18 am (UTC)|| |
you would have lived on other root veggies too! Potatos, carrots, turnips, parsnips and derision!
|Date:||April 17th, 2009 06:20 am (UTC)|| |
also, I think I've collected enough recipes that if you wanted, we could do a fry for you, in order to try pudding, and then be vegetarian the rest of the time. My concern was largely variety, which I got from recipe suggestions, and Galway... where we'd have to eat out. And I don't know Galway as well as I know Dublin. And in Dublin there are only a couple places you can eat out as a vegetarian, and all of them are hideously expensive.
i'm alright playing this by ear. if it's doable, great; if not, that's fine. you don't need to worry about it
|Date:||April 18th, 2009 11:56 pm (UTC)|| |
Totally want a postcard. In Gaelige.
this will likely not happen. gaelic scares me
yes! i am liking it so far. except at work when i am cooking a client bacon and want to eat it all up.